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About a month ago, I posted two polls: What is most important to you? and What is the main reason you use the groups platform?
With the help of several deviants and groups, I gathered almost 4,000 votes. The high number of participants gave me a close look into the priorities of the deviantART community – one that I would like to share.
Without further ado, here is what I discovered by asking, "What is most important to you?
The majority of deviants – about 60% – prefer comments over s or page views. There are two main reasons for this:
For a lot of deviants, such as falakalak, getting critique is one of the main reasons they joined deviantART in the first place.3 This website is unique in that it offers the chance to interact with other artists who can provide constructive feedback. We could get recognition in a lot of different places, but what other website boasts such a large and diverse community of artists? As alltheoriginalnames said, "a little feedback does go along way for an aspiring artist."4
There is a very large population of deviants out there who want to to become better, and rely on detailed comments to improve their abilities.
As a quick anecdote, only 20% of the voters chose s.
And this is where's where things start to fall apart. Through your own experience and browsing around deviantART, I assume you've noticed that the ratio between comments and s does not reflect these statistics. One of my recent deviations had only received five comments when it reached 100 s. As an artist, I found that frustrating. That I could appear to gain so much recognition, but actually benefit so little from the community.
Itti made a good point when she said, "I believe that favs are something done for the benefit of the person making the favourite and comments are done for the benefit of the artist."5 A lot of deviants said they valued their own collections, hence the "fave and run" mentality. But the majority of the community would prefer a comment. As OtisBee wrote, "comments by all means. pageviews and favs are just generated by clicks and don't really tell much about anything. but it's the comment that can really make me smile or get upset or make me think, make me improve and see things from another perspective."6 Why, then, are s so much more common?
We all want to show appreciation - but we don't always feel we have the time, or the words, to write a comment.
And, for some deviants, recognition is important. s and page views got almost 30% of the vote, which is not insignificant.
alltheoriginalnames commented, "So many people get caught up in the numbers that they lose sight of why they are really here, the art."7 That is a real shame, in my opinion. And almost exactly the opposite of deviantART's purpose as a website.
Art is what this website is about. kamioto-furin said deviants should, "share their skills with other artists."8 deviantART shouldn't be about numbers or becoming the most popular, it should be about developing our talents and sharing our passion for art.
I've heard beautiful stories about the way deviantART used to be, back when it was a smaller community of only thousands of members. It's grown to become a network of over 13 million artists. Becoming known is hard, and all too often that becomes the priority. I'm not any better than the rest: I understand the desire to gain attention. But I am continually drawn to bdwfh's comment: it's all about the art.9
In my opinion, our priorities have begun to shift away from our commonality – art – and focused on the divisive competition of gaining popularity, and Houston, we have a problem.
We're on the brink of a new year. I'm asking you to join me in re-focusing the deviantART experience. Make it about giving critique and supporting the artists themselves. Make it the community you want it to be.
I'd like to close with another quote from alltheoriginalnames. "I do believe strongly in helping others gain more exposure, as it does help certain people. But for me in regards to my own artwork recognition is not important, just the creative process. And if someone else enjoys the end result of it, that's cool man. If not, oh well. It was still a great journey."10
deviantART is not perfect, but it has so much potential.
We are a unique community, united by art. Let's recognize that.
With the help of several deviants and groups, I gathered almost 4,000 votes. The high number of participants gave me a close look into the priorities of the deviantART community – one that I would like to share.
Without further ado, here is what I discovered by asking, "What is most important to you?
The majority of deviants – about 60% – prefer comments over s or page views. There are two main reasons for this:
- It means that another artist took the time to look at their artwork in detail, and
- it gives them the opportunity to develop their skills by learning what worked and what didn't.
For a lot of deviants, such as falakalak, getting critique is one of the main reasons they joined deviantART in the first place.3 This website is unique in that it offers the chance to interact with other artists who can provide constructive feedback. We could get recognition in a lot of different places, but what other website boasts such a large and diverse community of artists? As alltheoriginalnames said, "a little feedback does go along way for an aspiring artist."4
There is a very large population of deviants out there who want to to become better, and rely on detailed comments to improve their abilities.
As a quick anecdote, only 20% of the voters chose s.
And this is where's where things start to fall apart. Through your own experience and browsing around deviantART, I assume you've noticed that the ratio between comments and s does not reflect these statistics. One of my recent deviations had only received five comments when it reached 100 s. As an artist, I found that frustrating. That I could appear to gain so much recognition, but actually benefit so little from the community.
Itti made a good point when she said, "I believe that favs are something done for the benefit of the person making the favourite and comments are done for the benefit of the artist."5 A lot of deviants said they valued their own collections, hence the "fave and run" mentality. But the majority of the community would prefer a comment. As OtisBee wrote, "comments by all means. pageviews and favs are just generated by clicks and don't really tell much about anything. but it's the comment that can really make me smile or get upset or make me think, make me improve and see things from another perspective."6 Why, then, are s so much more common?
We all want to show appreciation - but we don't always feel we have the time, or the words, to write a comment.
And, for some deviants, recognition is important. s and page views got almost 30% of the vote, which is not insignificant.
alltheoriginalnames commented, "So many people get caught up in the numbers that they lose sight of why they are really here, the art."7 That is a real shame, in my opinion. And almost exactly the opposite of deviantART's purpose as a website.
Art is what this website is about. kamioto-furin said deviants should, "share their skills with other artists."8 deviantART shouldn't be about numbers or becoming the most popular, it should be about developing our talents and sharing our passion for art.
I've heard beautiful stories about the way deviantART used to be, back when it was a smaller community of only thousands of members. It's grown to become a network of over 13 million artists. Becoming known is hard, and all too often that becomes the priority. I'm not any better than the rest: I understand the desire to gain attention. But I am continually drawn to bdwfh's comment: it's all about the art.9
In my opinion, our priorities have begun to shift away from our commonality – art – and focused on the divisive competition of gaining popularity, and Houston, we have a problem.
We're on the brink of a new year. I'm asking you to join me in re-focusing the deviantART experience. Make it about giving critique and supporting the artists themselves. Make it the community you want it to be.
I'd like to close with another quote from alltheoriginalnames. "I do believe strongly in helping others gain more exposure, as it does help certain people. But for me in regards to my own artwork recognition is not important, just the creative process. And if someone else enjoys the end result of it, that's cool man. If not, oh well. It was still a great journey."10
deviantART is not perfect, but it has so much potential.
We are a unique community, united by art. Let's recognize that.
And the frost is here.
The rising moon looked like an orange slice on Thursday night.
Yeah, that's right. I'm updating my journal. :bow: Hello, citizens.
Here's what's what:
I can't wait for it to snow. It seems like every year that goes by, I love snowboarding a little bit more. Right now I can't wait to hit the slopes.
I just made a banana-kiwi-banana slice sandwich. It was amazing. (Oh, that reminds me of a story. I'll add it at the end.)
I was at a youth retreat all weekend. Had a superb time.
I'm quitting Project 52.
I know, surprising right. I got pretty far and I was pretty determined to go through with it. But the overarching purpose of my participat
My life is chaos.
Oh, and that's supposed to be an excuse.
Wow, okay. So remember that plan I had to post a journal every week? Yeah, um. I'll try to do that from now on, maybe.
In the meantime, here's some snippets of my life:
My friend Huckleberry came to visit me at university. Here's what I posted on Facebook that night:
Spent the afternoon with Huckleberry Nelson. Got stranded on a desolate island near the Kingston marina, rained on, hassled by policemen while half-naked (that was Huckle's lovely experience) while trying to steal a boat, attacked by scary spiders, nearly drowned, and in the end, helped by a kingly old gentleman who owned a yacht. Alt
'ello, sweetie.
Remember me?
It's been so long since I last posted a journal, I don't even know where to start. So much has happened.
Things I did during the summer:
Okay, I posted that last journal in late July. I was gone from deviantART for all of August; here's most of the things I did:
Camping for a weekend with my family and marikob-k (https://www.deviantart.com/marikob-k)'s family. It was great. We had a bonfire, played on the playground with a bunch of random children, went swimming and good ol' Apples to Apples. :eyes:The GO Project: A United Church mission project for two weeks in downtown Toronto. We volunteered at different sites (a food bank, a youth shelter, etc.) and learn
Taste the summer sun.
It's like strawberries and ice cream and pink lemonade.
I couldn't keep you up to speed on all of the things I've been doing if I tried. Which I won't 'cause I'd much rather go outside and race the wind.
My life has been a blur of laughter, playing cards, coffee breaks and sweaty cheerfulness. It's summer. :]
Oh, and I guess this is worth sharing: I went to a big concert on Saturday Edgefest. It's an annual thing, with 20,000+ people there and a lineup of known and unknown alt. rock bands. It was really, really amazing. I saw bands like Dinosaur Bones (signed DB shirt, woo), The Reason, Arkells, Hollerado, KO, Tokyo Police Club, The
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I can agree w/ this. Even though I don't have anything posted on my profile, I've had previous deactivated accounts that I used to upload art, but I never got any feedback when I even asked for it. I do appreciate those who did give me feedback though. I mean, it's nice to get a favorite, but it's not giving me any proper criticism. It's just saying you'll use it as a reference or just have it in your favorites because you like the piece. People need to give proper criticism though.
I do favorite lots of pieces without commenting sometimes, but I usually take a look at the comments or even post my feedback. But, in short, it's really disheartening whenever I don't get proper feedback. It makes me feel like I'm just a Deviant who can't draw to save my life because I don't get any comments suggesting improvement.
I do favorite lots of pieces without commenting sometimes, but I usually take a look at the comments or even post my feedback. But, in short, it's really disheartening whenever I don't get proper feedback. It makes me feel like I'm just a Deviant who can't draw to save my life because I don't get any comments suggesting improvement.